Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Monday, October 23, 2006

And he’s not even a white guy

Candidate in Letter Probe Stays in Race
Associated Press, October 22, 2006

GARDEN GROVE, Calif. - The Republican congressional candidate whose campaign was linked to an intimidating letter sent to Hispanic voters promised Sunday to stay in the race despite pressure to withdraw.
"I'm not going to quit this race; I'm going to win this race," Tan Nguyen told reporters at his campaign headquarters.
Nguyen, a Vietnamese immigrant trying to unseat popular Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez, last week blamed an unidentified staffer for sending out 14,000 letters warning immigrants they could be deported or jailed for voting in next month's election. The mailings sparked state and federal probes.
Nguyen said he did not authorize or approve the letter, and implied that Sanchez was behind the investigations.
"There has been no crime committed so why is there a criminal investigation three weeks prior to a very important election? What is going on? Who is fueling this investigation?" he asked.
Calls seeking comment from Sanchez were not immediately returned.
The Orange County Republican Party has called for his resignation and he has received criticism from many, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
On Friday, after Nguyen's campaign headquarters was searched by California Department of Justice investigators, a handful of local candidates showed up to condemn the letter and suggest Nguyen might not be the only Republican involved.
Nguyen's residence, and that of a home listed as belonging to one of his staffers, also were searched by investigators on Friday.
The letter, written in Spanish, was mailed to an estimated 14,000 Democratic voters in Orange County. It warned: "You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."
Immigrants who have become naturalized U.S. citizens are eligible to vote.
William Braniff, a spokesman for the Nguyen campaign and a former U.S. attorney, blamed the controversy on the media. He said the media mistranslated the word "emigrado," which appeared in the Spanish-language letter.
The word "emigrado" refers to someone who has emigrated and has no specific legal connotation.
Braniff said, however, the word refers specifically to legal residents _ but not naturalized citizens. He said when the letter was translated into English, the word "emigrado" became "immigrant" and didn't distinguish between those immigrants who were U.S. citizens and U.S. residents.

But, I guess there is the inconvenient fact that those in this country who are not citizens or here illegally, emigrados, can not vote in an election, and I would assume it would be against the law if they tried. Unless there is something here I am missing, but we haven’t started to let illegal immigrants vote too have we?


Blogger KEvron said...

how do you explain the phoney data base mentioned in the letter, publius? that's TWO lies.

disenfranchizement by deceit and intimidation: the republican way....


Mon Oct 23, 01:13:00 AM  
Blogger KEvron said...

and then there's the matter of the phoney letterhead....


Mon Oct 23, 01:53:00 AM  
Blogger KEvron said...

cat got your tongue, publius, or is your foot in the way?


Mon Oct 23, 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

Just goes to show, deceit and deception know no party affiliation.

Disgusting, this.

Mon Oct 23, 08:12:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

I never saw the letter. Only read the article.
I found the article before I even knew it was something you were talking about.
There will never be a cat with my tongue or a foot in my mouth, don't worry about that.

Mon Oct 23, 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger KEvron said...

"There will never be a cat with my tongue or a foot in my mouth, don't worry about that."

re. former: glad to hear it. as for the latter....

....false info, bogus database, phoney letterhead. still a matter of translation? or deliberate act of disenfranchisement?

the cat knows better than to get anywhere near my tongue. my own foot, however....


Tue Oct 24, 01:02:00 AM  
Blogger Bobkatt said...

Something has got to be done to combat the voting fraud perpetuated by the open borders crowd. For example:" June 3, 2006
If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: “You don't need papers for voting.”
On Thursday night, Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered those words. She said yesterday she simply misspoke."
The Democrats have also led the opposition to any kind of voter ID act and use this discouraging photo

Tue Oct 24, 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

If illegals or other unqualified voters attempt to cast a ballot, deport or jail 'em. And don't give them a warning beforehand.

Voter fraud should be dealt with harshly. Period.

Tue Oct 24, 08:36:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Kevron, I still have not seen the letter. So all I really know about the story is what I read in this AP story. But, I don’t really have the desire to read anymore. The letter should not have been sent out, regardless of the reasoning. It is not a candidate’s responsibility to inform the district who can and can not vote.
But I will say that if the candidate had not been Vietnamese and had been some white guy instead, this story would be a lot bigger.

Tue Oct 24, 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger sappho said...

Publius, if you havent seen or read the entire letter in spanish, then maybe you shouldnt be so quick to judge or go with the word of ONE news corp. ???
I myself, have read many accounts, actually read & seen the letter, & have spoken to Mexican friends & family who have as well.

Your point about ILLEGAL people not being allowed to vote is correct & warranted, I agree. But, immigrants, legal ones, are more than entitled to vote. THAT is the issue at hand here, not illegal immigrants voting.

Dirty scare tactics & illegal intimidation is flat out wrong, & I would hope even a raging Conservative could agree with that.
Plus, California law states it's illegal to do that.

Tue Oct 24, 11:06:00 PM  
Blogger KEvron said...

"I still have not seen the letter. So all I really know about the story is what I read in this AP story."

and yet you were willing to insist it was a simple matter "lost in translation".

"It is not a candidate’s responsibility to inform the district who can and can not vote."

bit of a straw man, but let's expand on that: nor is it the candidate's privilege to misinform, deceive and intimidate voters.

"But I will say that if the candidate had not been Vietnamese and had been some white guy instead, this story would be a lot bigger."

good luck proving what never came to pass.


Tue Oct 24, 11:48:00 PM  
Blogger KEvron said...

here's a pdf of the letter.

Wed Oct 25, 01:54:00 AM  
Blogger Bobkatt said...

While this letter contains fallacies, immigrants not being able to vote is not one of them. You can only legally vote if you are a naturalized citizen.

Wed Oct 25, 06:20:00 AM  
Blogger KEvron said...

thanks for stating the obvious, bob. and no thanks for ignoring the rest of the obvious: that the best lies always contain some truth.

you guys are doing a lousy job at renewing my faith in my fellow american....


Wed Oct 25, 09:06:00 PM  
Blogger Bobkatt said...

Kev-I was referring to the comment by Sappho "But, immigrants, legal ones, are more than entitled to vote." Not to a sarcastic jerk that can't even get our flag right-side up.

Thu Oct 26, 05:30:00 AM  
Blogger KEvron said...

"I was referring to the comment by Sappho...."

then learn to direct your comments.

"Not to a sarcastic jerk"

nuzzle my junk, bigot.

"that can't even get our flag right-side up."

and why would i want to turn it right-side up?


Thu Oct 26, 07:37:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Am I going to have to separate you two boys or can you both play nice?

Thu Oct 26, 11:43:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Sappho, legal immigrants can of course vote. My own mother is a legal immigrant. The issue here though is still that regardless of the intention of the letter, it went beyond the bounds of the authority of a candidate to dictate to people who can and can not vote.

Fri Oct 27, 12:13:00 AM  

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