Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Friday, September 08, 2006

More from white people

A study by University of Minnesota sociologists shows that 77% of whites say their race has a distinct culture that should be preserved (Time, September 11, 2006).
Who are these 23% of white people who do not think their culture should be preserved? I am going to make a guess here and say that most of the people who read this blog are white, so I wanted to know if any of you fit into the 23% category? And believe me if you make a response of something along the lines of, “there is nothing about white culture worth preserving,” then you better be prepared to explain.


Blogger betmo said...

what is white culture? i guess i don't know what that means. white folks here in america come from many different european ethnic backgrounds and have their own 'cultures.' here where i live- pierogies and holupki are white slavic traditions but we also have corned beef and cabbage in march. i don't think that the colored hordes want to take that away and replace it with fried chicken and okra. if i had a better understanding of what was being lost or needed saving- i could probably answer the question better.

Sun Sep 10, 09:52:00 AM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

I fall into the 77%.

Sun Sep 10, 09:54:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

Betmo, being part Slovak and Czech, I have eaten a lot of pierogies and holupki in my time, and with my mother from Northern Ireland I have also had a lot of ham and cabbage. But for many people under 30 and especially those who are teens or younger, I am the exception and not the rule.
To illustrate my point I will use a quote from “Survivor” host Jeff Probst who has come to realize that being an Asian American means Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, but “whites” on the other hand, are “mutts” and “don’t have any ethnicity to hang on to,” but “When you start talking to a person from Asia, you realize - Wow! They have all different backgrounds!” (Washington Post, Friday, September 8, 2006, C1).

This all goes back to a post I made a few months ago about having white pride, or European Pride. I have been to almost every county where my ancestors came from which included Northern Ireland, England, the Czech Republic, and Hungary, but I still need to go to Slovakia and Russia. But how many other white kids do you know who have done the same? To me when young white people don’t know where they come from, or consider themselves mutts (which technically I am) then they will seek out other affiliations. The problem is that these affiliations can be negative groups with Neo-Nazis coming to mind. People want to feel like they belong and that they belong to something bigger than themselves. Some people find this is religion, some find it in sports, some with their local community if their family has deep roots in that community. But for those who do not have those affiliations, they will seek them out somewhere.

What is being lost is a sense of belonging to something greater, of a group mentality. I know there are some who will say they being an American is enough, but what is “an American?” There are no definitive characteristics, and do you feel any real sense of connection to the person you see on the road or in the store because you both are American?

Sun Sep 10, 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger The Local Crank said...

I'm with Betmo--what the hell is "white culture"? There is no more a generic overarching "white culture" than there is a "native american culture." There is, of course, Irish and Polish and German culture, but too often "white culture" is used none-too-subtly as a euphemism for white supremacy. Likewise, I would argue that "American culture" is less a definition than an amalgam of many different influences. This is, IMHO, our greatest strength and historically the greatest source of bewilderment to our enemies.
Incidentally, Publius, remind me to get you some kanutche and frybread for Christmans.

Mon Sep 11, 09:54:00 AM  
Blogger Rogue Mariner said...

As Betmo and Crank said, it's kind of hard to define "white culture." If the survey had said "American Culture" that might have made a difference. But American Culture would have to include "non-white" characteristics, so I guess that doesn't work either. I think there should be an effort to preserve every culture. It keeps things interesting.

Mon Sep 11, 12:47:00 PM  
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Mon Sep 11, 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every culture should be preserved. "White culture" is not a culture, publius, unless you are deliberately attempting to appear pigheaded like the KKK guys on Jerry Springer or something. I say YOU defend yourself. Irish Culture, eastern European culture, Southern culture, midwestern culture, Canadian culture, French culture, there are cultures. What the hell is white culture? Theres no such thing

Tue Sep 12, 09:01:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

I was thinking about what you all are saying, and I think maybe there has been something I have been missing to my logic. I know, I am admitting a mistake here.

I am not an immigrant from a European country. My family comes from a few different countries in Europe. I am Irish, English, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, and Russian. I take pride in that and my problem or my concern or what I don’t understand is why so many white people either do not or don’t care. I know my last name was changed when my ancestors came through Ellis Island because it was too difficult to say or pronounce. I know where the towns are that they came from and I have visited some of those towns. Maybe it would be best summarized as instead of people needing to take pride in their “white heritage” maybe it would be better to say, I think it would be better if people who were white took more pride in their heritage, and to know where their parents and their parents came from; to look at their heritage with pride rather than shame or indifference. Maybe I am lucky. I have no ancestors who were Nazis or slave owners, but you still have to take the good with the bad because those who came before you are important because without them you would not be here.

Wed Sep 13, 01:37:00 AM  
Blogger Bobkatt said...

Publius, I don't think quoting deep thinkers like Jeff Probst will garner you too much credibility. I think you are over thinking this dilemma. There is no "white" culture just like there is no "black" culture. I suggest that black-americans have much more in common culturally with white-americans than they do with Africans. Even though my ancestors go back to the signing of Declaration of Independence, I feel very little desire to connect with my roots. Unlike the slaves I believe my ancestors came here mostly as a rejection of the culture they came from. They risked tremendous perile to establish an entirely new culture, American. It has taken years and a lot of people have suffered greatly to bring us to where we are and that is why I am so passionately against open borders. We now have more illegals in this country than all of the legal immigrants we have taken into this country since it was formed. I am not willing to ignore all the sacrifices my ancestors and others made just to hand this country over to people who don't appreciate these values.
Don't forget where you came from. Don't regret who you are-you're an American.

Fri Sep 15, 05:54:00 AM  

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