Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Saturday, September 23, 2006

Hugo Chavez

So Hugo comes to New York to speak in front of the UN, and because The US/Iran/Iraq were getting all the headlines, he proceeds to bless himself at the podium, describe how the podium smells like sulfur still, and refers to President Bush as the devil. This is a world leader, and although he is a world leader of a relatively insignificant country in terms of world prestige, Venezuela’s oil makes him a grander figure than he should otherwise be. He is like Kim in North Korea but with taller and with better fashion sense – you all remember his red sweatshirt he wore for almost a month straight.

Now, I don’t care that much about Chavez. I don’t think you should rattle your sword when all you have is a butter knife, but that was not what caught my eye on this story. Instead, I thought about how Chavez referred to Bush as the Devil, and how Democrats who don’t agree with President Bush on almost anything, were the first to come to his defense. It seems that when it is an outsider who makes an ignorant and ridiculous comment about Bush, then they disagree. But, how many liberals, or liberal bloggers have called Bush the devil, or a baby killer, a Nazi, or Satan? It is just as stupid and ignorant when someone in this country says it as when some third world leader, of a country most High School students couldn’t find on a map if you spotted them South America, says it.


Blogger quakerdave said...

I have to admit, I was puzzled by Reps. Rangel and Pelosi and their defense of the Emperor and their attacks on Chavez. Their argument seemed to be "He's our devil, and you can't call him one, only we can call him that," which is pretty strange, besides being inconsistent.

I also got a big kick out of the attacks on Chavez from the usual suspects on the Right: It's not okay for a foreign "leader" to call our Prez a "devil," but it's okay to call liberals "traitors" and "appeasers" and "Nazis" (as in "femi-Nazis", etc.) and such on a regular basis...

Sat Sep 23, 11:13:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

I think both sides are using the “we may fight amongst ourselves argument.” But what I still find sad, is that people even use these kind of statements even “amongst ourselves,” regardless of who is saying them. I look at politicians I disagree with as good people with bad ideas, while I think some view politicians they disagree with as bad people with even worse ideas.

Sun Sep 24, 12:27:00 AM  
Blogger Bobkatt said...

QD-Chavez is a fat little tin-horn dictator punk. The UN is the only place in this country that he can spout off like that and not get his ass whipped. They should have stripped searched him at the airport.
You make it sound like the liberals are some kind of victims here. Bush and buddies are called Nazis, liers, murderers, etc. by the main stream media and lefty loons everyday. Get off your high horse.

Mon Sep 25, 04:10:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

Bobkatt, I think quite the opposite. I am sure there are a lot of places Chavez could go here in the US and be welcomed with open arms. All you have to do is read some liberal blogs to see how those on the Left praised Chavez for his words.
Personally, I do not believe that anyone should be called Hitler. There was only one Hitler, and no one, God willing, will ever measure up to his evil. Calling someone else Hitler or a Nazi to associate a person with Hitler is wrong because not only is the reference entirely inaccurate but it allows us to forget just how evil Hitler was.

Tue Sep 26, 12:13:00 AM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

I don't like horses. Don't have one, don't ride them. Metaphorically speaking, we all ride high horses 'round these parts, pardner.

I think you skipped the first part of my comment, and only got part of the second half.

Viagraboy Limbaugh spent the entire next day after Chavez's little rant ripping him, while conveniently forgetting all the time he spends calling people on the Left similar names. He's built a career on it. Copycat Coulter calls liberlas "traitors." That's name-calling. So does Hannity. So my point was don't say folks can't call names if you yourself... call names. Like "left loon," for example. (If publius wants an echo chamber here, I'll leave, if he says I should.)

I ALSO SAID that I thought Rangel and Pelosi were being inconsistent for criticizing Chavez, when they have spoken ill of Bush on a regular basis.

Hey, I think Bush is evil. I said it, I'll stick by it. If somebody else agrees, that's her/his perogative.

Tue Sep 26, 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger Shimmy said...

The devil is right at home. The devil himself is right in the house. And it still smells like sulfur.


Wed Sep 27, 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

QD, you know I want your point of view around here, the yin and yang again. And I think you made a strong point that some of the Democrats were being inconsistent. And, those on the Right are just as guilty of making ridiculous statements. However, as much as I now disagree with President Bush and his administration on a number of topics from immigration to the handling of the War in Iraq, calling someone evil is still a bit much. Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, those people orchestrated enough deeds and purposely killed enough innocent people as a means to consolidate power that they really can be considered evil. Bush has just done a bad job. The newspaper boy didn’t deliver my paper the other day, so he did a bad job, but he is not evil.

Shimmy, who are you referring to? I hope you don’t mean me on this one.

Thu Sep 28, 05:28:00 AM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

Evil is as evil does. he's a bad man, doing bad things.

Suits my definition.

Fri Sep 29, 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

I can accept you saying he is a bad man. If he does bad things, even with good intentions, then I can accept what you are saying even if I don’t agree. But, I still hold the word evil to a select few individuals. By invading Virginia in 1861, Lincoln is still responsible for more American deaths and American destruction than Bush could do in 30 years as President. JFK started Vietnam, LBJ made Vietnam worse, and FDR allowed Japanese internment camps and could have done more to save European Jews. But, I do not consider any of these men evil.
Few people are evil, but many are bad people.

Fri Sep 29, 10:36:00 PM  

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