Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Sunday, July 09, 2006

Zidane and the French losers

Leave it to the French to wait till the World Cup Championship to show how classless a team and a people they are. Zinedine Zidane ended his soccer career with an ugly head butt when he slammed the crown of his big bald head into the center of Italy defender Marco Materazzi's chest after the two exchanged words while walking down the field in extra time.
Eight years ago, Zidane was red-carded for stomping on an opponent while playing Saudi Arabia. At this World Cup he collected two yellow cards and was suspended for France's third group match against Togo.
Five years ago, Zidane was also red-carded for butting Jochen Kientz in a Champions League match for Juventus against Hamburger SV.

Zidane’s career ends on one of the stupidest and most classless moves ever made by an athlete especially considering that this World Cup Final was most likely the most watched sporting event in history with over 1 billion viewers, and that it was the second overtime period in a tied World Cup final in a match his team would eventually lose on penalty kicks. I don’t know if he was asked to not return to the pitch or if he refused for the medal ceremony, but his head butt was only the beginning of the displays of an overall classlessness by the French.

After the match and during the medal ceremony, some of the French players were seen having their silver medals placed around their neck in an Olympic style ceremony only to take these medals off moments later while still on camera. This move of unsportsmanlike conduct by a poor loser was then done by the French coach as well who as soon as receiving his medal placed around his neck took it off and put it in his pocket.

I am glad the French lost, I was never rooting for them in the first place, and now I know why.


Blogger Truth-Pain said...

Here's to the fall of the Frogs, hear hear!
I have no particular alergy to the men of Escargot other than the foul treatment they gave my Mom once long time ago at a Parisian cafe,... but alas, that could have happened in Cleveland as well I guess.
I am of both Italian and French blood so I've no dog in my allegiances; but the Italians always seem a better sort of people,.. at least to my uneducated sight.

Sun Jul 09, 09:32:00 PM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

From The Guardian: more on the infamous red card:

'A red card rather than a greetings card ushered Zinédine Zidane into retirement 19 minutes into extra-time. The captain was sent off for reacting to a dispute with Marco Materazzi by turning and butting the scorer of Italy's goal in the chest. He had surely been provoked - there were suggestions last night that Materazzi had called him "a terrorist" - but Zidane will be right to curse his stupid reaction.'

Now, if you watch the game footage - maniac that I am, I taped all the matches - you can see that both players are sniping at each other, but ZZ stops dead in his tracks, his whole countenance changes, and he charges back at Materazzi and butts him. This is NOT to excuse what he did, but it was obvious then and now that the Italian player must've said something REALLY terrible to make ZZ lose his cool.

It's a shame that some French guys messed with your mom, but I have heard some real horror stories about how Italian men treat American females, too...

Why all this French bashing? The "frog" thing is pretty distasteful, non?

Sun Jul 09, 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger Truth-Pain said...

C'mon QD!... the "Frog" thing was a flip tribute to a boring moment of consciousness, not a perjorative in any sense of my brain,... Its like folks here in in Silicon Valley calling San Jose State University "Taco Tech",...
As to my Mom?... I said so myself, it could have happened anywhere; Hell, she's gotten worse treatment in Newark International Airport.
Lastly, yes,... the Italian gropping stories are as un-pretty as anything I've heard coming out of Duke University, albeit with less press.

Mon Jul 10, 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

QD, you said nothing about the unsportsmanlike conduct of the French players after receiving their silver medals? Would you excuse this behavior at the Olympics? That was deplorable and the fact that the coach did it as well made it worse.

As far as Zidane’s head butt goes, it does not matter what the guy said to provoke that kind of reaction, it was something one white guy said to another white guy? What could he have possibly called him, Frog, Frenchie, Whitey, Cracker…American? That was one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in sports and you know that it does not matter what Zidane ever did before on the pitch this is what he will be remembered for.

As for Italian men, they are not as bad as you say, having been there just last year and being with a very attractive female, I can tell you they were cool and didn’t bother her at all, unlike the Turks and Muslims in every European country we went to.

Mon Jul 10, 03:35:00 AM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

1) Didn't say I excused Zidane's behavior. "Sticks and stones" and all that. He should've taken out his anger on the ball, by bashing it ito the goal, not by using his head as a weapon.

2) It's not unusual to see the second-place "winners" treat their awards as just that: second place. It, again, does NOT excuse their behavior. But, let's face it: for better or worse, we live in a culture that only values winning. Remember the Nike ad a few years ago. "Second place is nothing," or something like that, and it ran during the Olympics. And we have the John Stossels of the world bemoaning the fact that we give ANY sort of recoginition to anyone BUT winners. So, after a very hard-fought and emotional match, after a long and exhausting tournament, this did not surprise me, so I didn't really care to comment on it.

3) A very dear female friend of mine was nearly gang-raped when she went to Italy as a grad student. Hers, and few other stories I've heard, have somewhat colored my few of that nation's "men."

Of course, this could also have happened in Wildwood, NJ. Or at a fine southern university...

And "frog" is a slur.

Mon Jul 10, 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

*into* the net, not "ito" the net.

Mon Jul 10, 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger Wadical said...

I know nothing of soccer. I don't understand the game enough to appreciate it, I guess. I did however watch this final match and agree that Zidane's actions were completely uncalled for. I cannot understand why he didn't get his ass kicked. (Try that on an American Baseball or Football field!) It's almost as if it's "how" he wanted to go a thug. I don't think he wanted to play anymore. This was shortly after his sissy ass was sitting on the field, feigning some injury while smiling and pointing to his shoulder. He acted hurt but he didn't look hurt, and I don't think he was hurt. The classless acts of the whole team at the medal ceremony was deplorable.

I found the after game celebrations to be a little "disturbing". I know that European customs allow more male to male embraces and stuff but, come on, man...there were people sitting in peoples laps, lying down and mounting each other on the field, petting, kissing, stroking and loving on each other, and doing these queer little booty shaking was starting to get very uncomfortable to watch.

Mon Jul 10, 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Brooke said...

Huh. A Frenchman with no manners. Imagine that.

Mon Jul 10, 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

wadical is right about one thing. He knows nothing about soccer.

"Try that on an American Baseball or Football field!" But then you call Zidane a thug? Which way do you want it?

Zidane was not "smiling" after he came down on his shoulder. he was grimacing. Watch. The. Tape.

"I know that European customs allow more male to male embraces and stuff but, come on, man...there were people sitting in peoples laps, lying down and mounting each other on the field, petting, kissing, stroking and loving on each other, and doing these queer little booty shaking was starting to get very uncomfortable to watch."

But do you watch pro "wrestling"?

I think the "queer little booty dances" part kinda tells us where you're coming from, man.

Mon Jul 10, 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger Sarah said...

Lots of stereotyping going on in this post.....

I hope none of you watch hockey. Lots of hugging going on. But gee, it must be that French-Canadian and European influence, eh? God forbid men show emotion! Who do they think they are, women? Funny how nobody bats an eye when girls hug and kiss each other. However, if I wanted to engage in male stereotyping, I could tell you why...

Mon Jul 10, 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

QD, I still think it was still disrespectful how some of the French players and the French coach acted after receiving their medals, it showed a poor sportsmanship and considering how much soccer prides itself on sportsmanship it really showed a lack of class. Think about the Iranian team giving the Mexican player flowers because of his father, or how teams will kick the ball out of bounds when a player goes down knowing they will get the ball right back, trading jerseys after a match, and shaking hands after a match. What the French players did tarnished the whole thing. And I think you can find bad men in every country, you know a story about someone having a run-in with Italian men; I have a story about them being cool. Frog might be a slur, but on the scale of slurs it is so far down there with redneck or Gumba.

I am however going to try to refrain from your Duke comment as that case has left the mind of the media because there is really no case there whatsoever and I believe I said that from almost day one.

Mon Jul 10, 11:14:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Wadical, I think Zidane was hurt and looking at the replays I could see why too. Yes, soccer players fake it, but this did not look fake and at the time I was excited to see him come back on the field. As far as the Italian reaction after winning, that is the same reaction you see when teams win here in the US too, and what you saw as gay I thought was cute. It was nothing different than what you would see at a bar late at night with a bunch of drunks.

Mon Jul 10, 11:18:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Sarah, I don’t have a problem with how the Italians reacted after winning. But, you are right, it would have been a lot better if it had been a bunch of in-shape sweaty Italian women.

Mon Jul 10, 11:20:00 PM  
Blogger quakerdave said...

Well, your examples of sportsmanship do make the point: the incident involving the Iran-Mexico game was a fine example,too. I just don't think it was that big of a deal. I also don't really think anyone really cared. Most of the attention- rightfully - was on the Italians.

Duke? Did I mention Duke?

Mon Jul 10, 11:53:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

QD your words “Of course, this could also have happened in Wildwood, NJ. Or at a fine southern university...” were you perhaps trying to mention a different Southern University? And I still stand by my comment that it was unsportsmanlike in a sport that prides itself on sportsmanship especially on a world stage with one billion watching.

Tue Jul 11, 01:06:00 AM  

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