Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Republican Cartoon

I received a cartoon today and I figured why not post it here, thank you to the contributor. Obviously the cartoon equates the Republican Party to the Nazi Party, because the similarities are so obvious.
This is Howard Dean thinking where he believes that the Republican Party is made up of old, rich, white men and yet he, Teddy Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, George Soros, Al Franken, John Kerry, John Edwards, etc are all old, rich, white men too. And for the record, whereas the Nazi Party was dedicated to the eradication of the Jewish People, it is the Republican Party that is the big supporter of the Jewish State of Israel.


Anonymous Spotz said...

Comparing is not equating.
You sure managed to suck all the fun out of that parody poster. I think that's the adjective you missed: humorless. It's kind of pathetic that you don't have the ability to laugh at yourself. No, wait, I take that back. It is pathetic that you can't laugh at yourself. Heck, I laugh at you all the time.

And I never understand the flow of your arguements. You'll spout off a bunch of "evidence" and draw a conclusion that makes no sense.
Do you know that's what you're doing or is it just how you see Your Hero Bill (YHB) attempting to make his cases?
It's not very much fun when one tries to have a discussion with you when all you have is gibberish and nonsense. Oh, then saying with a shrug, I'm just telling the truth.
Let me try using your way:
It's a nice day today, the sun is out, there are some pigeons outside my window. I might get a burrito for lunch. Therefore, Tony Snow will be the best Press Secretary that ever was.
See how easy? The sun shining is a fact; the pigeons are a fact; that I might have a burrito is a fact. In the face of all those facts, my conclusion must be valid.

So please bring more "Charlie Sheen is a perverted idiot, therefore the ACLU is godless and evil" arguements. You get to feel smug and self-satisfied no matter how others respond. Which I guess is the whole point of this vanity project.

Wed Apr 26, 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see your point Publius. The poster is pretty funny. And, for some people, it pretty much sums up their feelings about the Republican party. So did Howard Dean put the poster out? And aren't a lot of Politicians in general rich, old white guys? I mean, sure there are some women and a few minorities, and even some minority women, but mostly just rich, old white dudes. This is pointless, and probably the fault of some illegal immigrants. Who, by the way, are big supporters of burritos for lunch.

Wed Apr 26, 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

What does the ACLU fight for that is American? And please don’t tell me some sort of Right to Privacy, there is no such thing as a right to privacy - that was the courts overstepping their jurisdiction.
I read the arguments from both sides and I listen to both sides of an argument, and because I have the ability to admit when I am wrong, I am never wrong because by admitting to it and changing my stance, I therefore become correct.
Fact: The News has reported that Charlie Sheen's wife has claimed Charlie looks at photos of little boys having sex.
Fact: Charlie Sheen’s father supports an organization that has defended a group that promotes sex between Men and little boys.
Conclusion: Both are screwed up, so it is possible that it runs in the family.

Wed Apr 26, 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Having a discussion with someone is the only way anything can be agreed upon; if two sides are not talking then nothing gets decided. The problem with this cartoon is that it just says “Republicans are Nazis.” Well if you call someone a Nazi, what are the chances they are going to have a discussion with you where anything will be solved? What are the chances that if you call someone a Nazi that if you tell them the sky is blue, they are going to believe you? You have already insulted them and made a ridiculous statement and therefore your entire system of logic is called into question and considered faulty. Two reasonable people can have a discussion, but when one is insulting and the other feels insulted by a ridiculous comment that holds no logic or reason, how can a discussion occur?

Wed Apr 26, 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a good can they?

Wed Apr 26, 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Spotz said...

The Nambla case you are going on about was not about Charlie Sheen's right to have sex with children. The case was deciding if printed material can be used as an excuse for behavior. You can read about it. It was a freedom of speech issue.

The nativity scene issue is about having them on government property. A church and state issue. The same with the Pledge of Allegiance.

They are there to protect your right to free speech, carry guns, vote, eat burritos, and other pesky things the Constitution guarantees. I guess that's what the ACLU fights for that is American.

You say "Fact: The News has reported that Charlie Sheen's wife has claimed Charlie looks at photos of little boys having sex."

The fact is the news reported what the wife said. It is not a fact that he did it.

Then you say: "Fact: Charlie Sheen’s father supports an organization that has defended a group that promotes sex between Men and little boys."

I support them to. Does that make Martin Sheen my father or just screwed up?

Also, your post on Paris Hilton makes it sound like you (wisely) don't put much stock in celebrity endorsements. Yet, you use Martin Sheen's endorsement of the ACLU as an example of questionable behavior.

The poster is parody. PARODY. The word Nazi is nowhere in it. Fascism, yes, and if you want to get picky about it, they are two different ideologies. And, like YHB, you'll wring your hands, play the victim, and start with the anti-American claptrap to push your opinion.

And you are absolutly right, when your ridiculous statements and faulty system of logic are called into question, a discussion is difficult at best.

Wed Apr 26, 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

I don’t put much stock in celebrity endorsements, but I wonder why advertisers and social causes use celebrities? Could it be because there are people who will vote a certain way, buy a certain product, and be swayed in some way because a famous person does an endorsement and tells them to? If you don’t believe so then I assume you don’t own a single piece of clothing with a name brand like Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, or any other article of clothing that you saw some celebrity wear and think, “Hey that’s looks good, maybe I will buy one of those too.”

And there is no Separation of Church and State issue over Nativity Scenes; Separation of Church and Sate was to prevent the government from suppressing religious beliefs and advocating a form of religion. Nativity Scenes do not promote a religion, but they do represent a national holiday, unless you forget Christmas is a National Holiday. By having a Nativity Scene the government is not promoting Catholicism, or Baptists, or Mormons or any religion.

And with NAMBLA, did or ACLU or did they not represent the group? I don’t care if they were fighting to sell apples on the street to raise money, defending the group is supporting the group.

No, because the news reports that he did something does not make it true. But, that argument can be made with anything, however he has admitted to using a Madam and he has admitted to hiring prostitutes, and therefore it stands to reason that he is willing and capable of engaging in other illegal sexual practices.

And no the photo does not say Nazi, but he doesn’t have to be goose-stepping with a photo of Hitler in his other hand to understand the reference.

Wed Apr 26, 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Spotz said...

OK, so Christmas is a national holiday. Got it. And it's a holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus. Jesus is the Christian savior.
You don't see that as an endorsement of one religion over another? For real.

Let's save this one for your War on Christmas post, shall we?

Thu Apr 27, 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just thought of this, in the last GOvernors race in Va, Jerry Kilgore ran a commercial where a supporter says that TIm Kaine wouldn't give Hitler the death penalty, which many took as calling Kaine a Nazi sympathizer. He wisely pulled the ad after only a short run. Now Publius, is it okay that Kilgore did that? Or is that equally offensive?

Thu Apr 27, 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Spotz said...

good point, Anon.

Thu Apr 27, 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Jesus is considered the Son of God in the Christian faith, but also as a great Prophet in the Jewish and Muslim faiths. That the Jewish faith looks more to Moses and the Muslim faith looks more the Muhammad does not mean that those two faiths do not respect Jesus as well. This leaves only atheist who would not believe in celebrating Jesus but thank god this country was not founded on Atheistic beliefs. The only atheistic countries in the world have all been Communist, maybe I just don’t believe communism is a good idea.
Kaine believes that the death penalty in all circumstances is wrong, and that would mean Hitler too. The commercial was accurate even if in poor taste.

Thu Apr 27, 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Spotz said...

Where does it say Jesus in the Constitution, or Christian?

God, yes, but not Jesus, or Moses, or Allah, or Mohammed, or Buddah.

I'll grant you that the Founding Fathers were Diests (believing in god) but it says nothing about Jesus. And if Jesus is the basis of the Christian faith, then again, making a national holiday based on ONE groups beliefs is wrong.

Thu Apr 27, 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Actually, very few of the Constitutional Framers were Deists in which there is a belief in God, but that God acts as a type of watchmaker who made the world and then sits back and observes. You are confusing the writers of the Constitution with the most famous Deist Founding Father – Thomas Jefferson.
But, Jefferson was in France when the Constitution was written.

Oh, and while we are on the argument of what is and isn’t in the Constitution, where exactly is the Right to Privacy?

Thu Apr 27, 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Spotz said...

I'm done.

Go ahead and tell everyone you won with your sterling verbal gymnastics, like YHB.

Your best advice has been: get rid of the ACLU, build a fence between the US and Mexico, and Charlie Sheen should not be allowed near children. Very thoughtful and insightful.

So keep up the steady stream of reactionary crap and racist, baiting comments. You're doing a great service to the 18% who think Cheny's doing a good job and who think Malkin is too soft. Please keep being offeneded by anyone who thinks differently, and keep that blaming finger pointed anywhere but at yourself.

Best of luck in moving out of your folks house.

Fri Apr 28, 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who's talking about a right to privacy?

Fri Apr 28, 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

I am not offended by people who think differently, I am for an open discussion, and if you can convince me I am wrong then I will admit to it and I will change my mind. It is my hope that you offer the same truce.
And we were discussing what is and isn’t in the Constitution as basis for our laws; no God is not in the Constitution but God is the basis for some of our laws at the same time the Right to Privacy is not in our Constitution, but it too is the basis for some of our laws.

Fri Apr 28, 04:27:00 PM  

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