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Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Sunday, April 09, 2006

Immigrants Protests

Tomorrow will be all the big pro-illegal immigrant rallies around the country. April 10th has been declared as the day of protest and rallies are planned in every major city in the United States with some estimate that nearly 10 million Hispanics will be protesting tomorrow instead of going to work, so expect major traffic delays if you are going in or out of a city. They are expecting nearly 200,000 to rally on the Mall in Washington and for around 1 million to protest in Los Angeles. These protests will be all over the news and pro-illegal immigrant groups will say that it shows the power in this new “sleeping Latino giant.” Right now, politicians are on a two-week holiday and students have the week off for Easter. Tomorrow, we will see which, if any, politicians will join in these protests and we will see thousands of students protesting to be included in the American dream to become American citizens so that they can have a better life for themselves, which does not involve working jobs that “Americans won’t do.” I still as of yet had anyone explain to me what happens if these 12 million illegal immigrants are all granted amnesty and become Americans, then who takes their jobs? I do find it interesting that when they say “Americans” they are only referring to white and black people because as President Fox told us, Mexican immigrants in the U.S. do jobs that even blacks won’t do.

Prediction for tomorrow: you can’t have one million people protest on a weekday in a major U.S. city while that city tries to go about business as usual without problems. But, if riots occur tomorrow and on the news we see rioters carrying foreign flags and clashing with police, America’s borders go on lock-down.
Tomorrow may be a landmark day in American history; the sleeping giant is awake and tomorrow we will see if that giant is angry.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I certainly hope there is no violence in all of this. So many times groups decide to rally/protest, and have no intentions of violence, only to have some wing nut come in and start something. Whether you agree with their cause or not, I'm sure we're all hoping for a peaceful day.

Mon Apr 10, 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

I don't want violence, but I can't imagine you can have a million angry prople protest and think things will go smoothly. If there is violence though then their side loses and they hopefully know that. An angry mob of one million people spells disaster.

Mon Apr 10, 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger The Local Crank said...

"But, if riots occur tomorrow and on the news we see rioters carrying foreign flags and clashing with police, America’s borders go on lock-down."

What would make you suspect there was any danger of riots (as it turns out, there were none)? And with what Army do you imagine the borders would "go on lock-down"?

Tue Apr 11, 12:06:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

Perhaps I am too young to remember the marches of the Civil Rights Era which were peaceful, and my knowledge of mass protests mostly comes from old grainy news footage or history books. But, I can think of Anti-War protests in New York during the Civil War that become bloody and violent or of Peace Demonstrations during Vietnam that ended with clashes with police, the two recent protests in France with students and Muslims, or the countless G8 summits that often end in violence. This was why I thought violence could occur.
But, don’t think that just because we have over 100,000 soldiers in Iraq that the National Guard could not be called-up nationwide in the event of an emergency.

Tue Apr 11, 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger The Local Crank said...

"But, I can think of Anti-War protests in New York during the Civil War"

You're going back 140 years for evidence? And those were primarily Irish lynch mobs murdering African-Americans.

"Peace Demonstrations during Vietnam that ended with clashes with police"

Peace Demonstrations during the Vietnam era had a tendency to turn violent when the police attacked demonstrators (Chicago) or the National Guard opened fire on unarmed protestors (Kent State).

"But, don’t think that just because we have over 100,000 soldiers in Iraq that the National Guard could not be called-up nationwide in the event of an emergency."

Really? Like it was called up for Katrina? Forty-one percent of the troops overseas ARE the National Guard and Reserves. And even if ALL the troops were back home, it's not nearly enough to "lock down" the border.

Tue Apr 11, 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

No, it wasn’t called up for Katrina and that was a problem there too wasn’t it? I think we all realize the government dropped the ball on Katrina.
But, what about the protests against the G8 and the IMF that turned violent and destructive? And you have nothing to say about France’s protests? And I used the New York riots as an example of what happens when large groups protest in the streets when there is a deep divide between an immigrant group, in that case the Irish, and the policies of the government.

Tue Apr 11, 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger The Local Crank said...

The recent French riots were student protestors mad because they were afraid of losing their jobs. The ones before that Muslim immigrants angry because they were discriminated against by a radically secularist French government. The protests at G8 summits and against the IMF were mostly non-violent; it was only a small handful of anarchist morons who started smashing things. I'm still not sure why any of these occurances serves as an "example" of the dangers of American immigrants rioting, especially since as we all know now, they didn't. The National Guard WAS called up for Katrina; they were badly undermanned, with predictable tragic results.

Tue Apr 11, 10:09:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Then perhaps you will agree that whenever large groups of protesters gather there is always the possibility that violence can occur whether that violence starts from the protesters or from police? And you said it yourself, “The recent French riots were student protestors mad because they were afraid of losing their jobs.” Weren’t those who protested also afraid of losing their jobs and being deported?
Do you so believe in the good nature of people that there is never a chance that when hundreds of thousands of people group together to protest violence is impossible? No, riots did not occur but is it so unfeasible that in the middle of those hundreds of thousands who protested in Southern California that a member of the Mexican Mafia could not have encountered a member of MS-13 and caused an outburst of violence?

Tue Apr 11, 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger The Local Crank said...

"Then perhaps you will agree that whenever large groups of protesters gather there is always the possibility that violence can occur whether that violence starts from the protesters or from police?"

yes

"Weren’t those who protested also afraid of losing their jobs and being deported?"

Yes, though getting arrested is the quickest way to get deported.

"Do you so believe in the good nature of people that there is never a chance that when hundreds of thousands of people group together to protest violence is impossible?"

I believe that deep down, people are basically no damn good.

" No, riots did not occur but is it so unfeasible that in the middle of those hundreds of thousands who protested in Southern California that a member of the Mexican Mafia could not have encountered a member of MS-13 and caused an outburst of violence?"

Other than the fact that the Mexican Mafia has no interest in protests and it would be against their economic interests to see illegals deported, no.

Wed Apr 12, 02:47:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Getting arrested does not lead to deportation. Right now being here illegally is a misdemeanor like a parking ticket, it does not get you deported and an enormous percentage of those who do get a ticket for being here illegally never show up to court after being charged with being here illegally.
And maybe the gangs in California do not have any interest in protests, I have not read the Mexican Mafia’s or MS-13’s monthly newsletter so I don’t know for sure, but gang members do have activities outside of being in a gang and they very well could have been a part of the protests. Even gang members listen to the radio and watch television, and Hispanic radio stations and Spanish language television stations were all preaching for people to get out and protest. No, nothing happened, but that does not mean it was impossible that it could not have happened or that it is impossible that it could not happen in the future.

Wed Apr 12, 11:57:00 PM  

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