Protect and Defend

Welcome to my blog, Protect and Defend. You don’t have to understand me. You only have to agree with me. I can live with losing the good fight, but I can not live with not fighting that good fight at all. - Publius

Sunday, February 05, 2006

Random Quote

Whenever I overhear an interesting quote whether it is through casual conversation, radio, television, or book, newspaper or journal, I feel as though I should share it with you all. Rather than taking credit for these quotes I feel it is better to give that credit where credit is due. These quotes may be about anything but they are all interesting and deserve further thought.
The most recent one I overheard was on the Jay Severin radio program. Jay mentioned that, Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim.
Just something to think about as you go about your day.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

My only problem with that is the "blanket statement" quality of the quote. People terrorize others everyday in many different ways, does that mean any one who engages in those activities is Muslim?

Mon Feb 06, 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Terrorizing someone and being a terrorist is not the same thing. A playground bully terrorizes other kids, but they do not blow them up or riot in the streets. Until Americans realize the true danger of those who mean to kill us, none of us are safe.

Mon Feb 06, 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about this wingnut who attacked patrons in a gay bar? He tried to kill people, he used terror as part of his attack, that, in my book, makes him just as much of a terrorist. There has been no mention of him being a Muslim. Terrorizing someone makes you a terrorist, not a Muslim.

Tue Feb 07, 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

Killing a deer for food does not make me a murderer it makes me a hunter. Killing an individual in a crime does not make you a terrorist either, regardless of motive, it makes you a murderer. But, if you fill a truck with explosives with the intention of killing numerous innocent people in the name of a cause, you are a terrorist. If you look in the dictionary, and I hate to use this, but a terrorist is defined as “n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.” Murders do not kill because they have some cause they believe in or are fighting for, terrorists use a cause to justify their killings; there is a difference. Even premeditated murder does not make you a terrorist; it only makes you a murderer. When you kill in the name of a cause or a religion you are a terrorist when those killings acted out on innocent civilians for the dual purpose to cause death and to scare people into changing their lives or actions for fear of additional attacks.

Tue Feb 07, 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He went to a gay bar to kill gay patrons. Obviously there was some deep seeded feeling towards the gay community, as he asked the bar tender if it was, in fact, a gay bar, before he began his attack. He was a terrorist. THe hunting analogy doesn't work. Hunting to provide food for your family is just that...hunting. Unless you're Hannibal Lecter, no one thinks you might murder a person to provide for your family.

Wed Feb 08, 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

He still never employed terror as a political weapon. The murder he performed was not intended to make a political statement and by using such loose interpretations of the word terrorist you lose the meaning and depth of why terrorists kill. People are not afraid to be gay now because of this killing. But, people were afraid to fly after 9/11, people in London are afraid to ride their subways, and now people are afraid to publish cartoons that depict Muhammad. Terrorists are an entirely separate category of murderer. In this county we use the threat of jail or capital punishment as a deterrent from those who wish to commit crimes, but terrorists are willing to die and encouraged to become “martyrs” for dying for their cause. Don’t confuse the two when the two can not be combated in the same way and the one is far more dangerous and terrifying.

Wed Feb 08, 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously no one is afraid to be gay because of this, however, they may have been afraid to go out to certain establishments until this guy was caught, or in this case, killed himself. While it's certainly a small section of society affected by this, I still say it's terrorism. Just on a smaller scale.

Wed Feb 08, 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Publius said...

It is difficult to argue with logic like yours that is so blatantly ridiculous as to make the conversation moot. It is almost as if you refuse to see the illogic in your comments.

Wed Feb 08, 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publius is so "fair and balanced" in his willingness to admit other viewpoints!

Wed Feb 08, 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My whole point it that blanket statements are dangerous. When you say, or in this case quote, that all Terrorists are Muslim, that, to me, is a blanket statement. You do this, so you are this. If the statement was all Al Qaida Terrorists are Muslim, it would be different. Terrorism exists outside of this particular case, all over the world, if you choose not to accept or acknowledge this, you're right, the conversation is moot.

Thu Feb 09, 05:42:00 AM  
Blogger Publius said...

Sure, but what is the common link between Abu Sayyaf (Philippines), Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Egypt), Armed Islamic Group (Algeria), Hamas, Al Aqsa Marytrs Brigade, Ansar al-Islam (Iraq), Al-Qaeda, Asbat al-Ansar (southern Lebanon), Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad (Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's Sunni network, Iraq), Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Egypt), Harakat ul-Mujahidin (Pakistan and Kashmir), Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain, Islamic Movement of Central Asia, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan - Uzbekistan, Jaish-e-Mohammed (Pakistan), Jaish Ansar al-Sunna (Iraq), JKLF Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (Pakistan and Kashmir), Jemaah Islamiyah (Southeast Asia), Jihad Rite (Australia), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (Pakistan), Lashkar-e-Toiba (Pakistan), Maktab al-Khadamat (Afghanistan), Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (Morocco and Spain), Muslim Brotherhood, People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (South Africa), Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (Algeria), Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (Pakistan), Takfir wal-Hijra (Egypt/Sudan/Algeria), Kurdish-Hizbullah (Turkey), Hofstad Network (Netherlands), and National Development Front (NDF)? If you answered that they are all Muslim terrorist groups then you win the prize. Don’t be so naïve into thinking that there is only one terrorist organization out there or that all Muslim terrorist organizations view the United Sates as their biggest enemy.
I will admit there are non-Muslim terrorist groups like the Kach and Kahane Chai, two Jewish terrorist organizations that operated in both the U.S. and Israel (both are now defunct); the Lord’s Resistance Army, a pagan/Christian group in the Sudan; Nagaland Rebels (Goal: Independence from India); National Liberation Front of Tripura (Goal: Independence of Tripura from India to create a Christian Tripura); and Aum Supreme Truth or Aum Shinrikyo in Japan.
There are also Sikh and Hindu terrorist organizations, but these organizations often have the specific goal of some sort of regional freedom, not the desire to take over and establish a 16th Century Muslim world. This returns to the point made about the government focusing on the Aryan Brotherhood and not MS-13. Don’t fix the faucet when your house is on fire.
Yes, the blanket statement is over the top, but with so many people either unaware of the danger at hand or who refuse to admit that there is a danger, it takes these over the top statements to get people to see the world for what it is and the dangers that abound.

Thu Feb 09, 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH, okay. So not all terrorists are Muslims? Thanks for clearing that up.

Thu Feb 09, 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous freedom said...

In today's context, muslims are terrorists. This is where the "war on terror" is being fought. Sure, we have the McVeighs every now and then but the fact is that we are fighting radical islam.

Fri Feb 10, 08:04:00 AM  

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